Me too. For buildings and other building-like structures. After two years I quit. I was frugal and saved enough to last 2 years working on a passion project but realized later it wasn’t feasible, especially when software is not something I enjoy much, I do it because it comes with the territory of engineering. It is much more complete than either article's list, and the natural place for such a list. In conclusion, companies are no larger interested in engineering like back in “the ole days”. Typical Steps to Licensure for Graduates of Accredited Engineering Programs in the US. I was pretty much thrown in the deep end because my technical experience was non-existent (there is really not much you can learn in the short span of vacation work). Needless to say, my background has helped – out mechanical engineer built an automated test fixture, and I wrote a windows based program in C# – I had one of our software engineers help me set up the IDE, but after that I went to town. Can money possibly make up for a job that you do not like? As many of my fellow Civil engineers, I got to the point of regretting my career choice, after 10 years our niche is less respected than ever. In a way, having that two way communication was a great aspect of my career. OTHER ENGINEERING ELECTIVE COURSES (13-15 UNITS) Students must take at least 68 units of engineering science and design courses (Engineering … If anything, meritocracy perhaps only applies to careers at the NSA or some National Laboratory, if one’s technical. , That’s true about outsourcing. My husband got promoted out of his technical job without even being interested or consulted. They see that engineers will always be needed and will have higher chances of getting a relatively well-paying job. I am 33 now and a electrical design engineer at a Fortune 500 company. I was told a larger company would be easier to work for but based on the forum, I am not sure. That could be partly due to the fact that if they stick it out seven years, they get a two month paid vacation. “Why is getting a job so dumb? BHATE provides structural condition and forensic evaluation of historic structures. For some reasons, I majored in ECE. I don’t want to end up like this. Blogging doesn’t make much money unless you’re really lucky. I am working for last 7 years and seems like I am stagnant with only 3% raise each year… only way up is taking business consultant position with 50% of travel time. Engineering should have a big dose of creativity, which is something which is inherently chaotic and unmanageable. Graduated from a state univ summa, and started out with structures in 99. I honestly never imagined, even two years ago, that I would have fallen out of love with technology, but I have — the company I work for now doesn’t do “bleeding edge” technology, although that is what the people that are hired for(including myself) projects know and are comfortable with. This is my first time reading it and I knew you were an engineer, but I didn’t know you were ECE. Hi everyone. Eventually, an engineer will need to adapt and take on a different role. For them it is very easy to make structural frames etc." Yeah, I agree with you about the arbitrary deadlines and power plays. A family and children are not conducive to 12 hour days and going into the office 7 days a week. Unlike yourself, my son Carl and Jim both quit to work in Finance. My answer is no, and I’m just living with it. In contrast, PAs don’t have to worry about that. Hence I decided to move into the area of of web design(HTML/CSS,Photoshop,Flash) and developement. The blog post is titled “Top-10 Reasons You Should Never Get a Job” and it is by Steve Pavlina, author of “Personal Development for Smart People”, http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/10-reasons-you-should-never-get-a-job/. Thanks for reading and any comment would be greatly appreciated. If you changed mid-semester and did not complete those 19 credits, I understand you may be done. It has it’s challenging days, but I can count on my fingers the companies in the world where I an do what I do. Maybe you are on to something with the small firm vs. large company though…. It is the branch of engineering concerned with the design, construction, and operation of machines and plants that perform chemical reactions to solve practical problems or make useful products. Wow, that’s a lot of pain (2 degrees) to go through, but a few of my college friends did that too. I was unhappy. I’ll garantee that you will have a much happier life with law and pharmacy. I have zero interest in computers, hated programming, but was pretty decent at math. Stop by! For the amount of liability and stress involved with structural engineering, we should be paid more especially factoring in the continuing education we need to go through to stay current. But if I am not well and fall sick, I can’t ask just about anyone (or self medicate) to prescribe me a pill or take medicine (Sometimes even the medicine on goggle isnt listed correctly because a doc will prescribe you meds very specific to your case history and biochemical levels and condition ). I am still confused though about what should I do? Although I wasn’t forced by my parents, but my family expects a lot from me since I’m an achiever in high school. Work as an engineer for a few years and see if it’s bearable. That’s hard, though. At this point, management will lie to your face and say that nothing will be changing and it will help the company progress to the goals they are trying to attain. Thanks for sharing. All of their problems are my problems…not to mention helping them through mentoring and listening to each of their specific issues. They have this idea of cross training and the company thinks that if people move throughout the ranks, that makes for a successful company. Actually, it’s a good thing that I’m not an engineer anymore. Good luck with the job search. Or just try a different career that interest you more. Engineers are overworked and under appreciated. I was eventually promoted to program manager, which in the old days was a VERY prestigious position. At this company I was an embedded engineer working in power systems. My current job is with a big multinational. It was great fun in the beginning, but I wasn’t able to evolve to fit the job expectation. I worked for a big pharma in robotics until 2016 and moved onto starting my own engineering project. "Great - reponsive service and inherent willingess to improve platform and modules based on customer feedback." Because you only get paid when you’re working. Structural engineers need to understand and calculate the stability, strength and rigidity and earthquake of built structures for buildings and nonbuilding structures. I have written many articles to bust some popular . After my second sabbatical I stuck it out as long as I could, but it just got worse. I make a little money with my blog. One of my college roommates was the smartest kid at his high school and he really struggled in college. This means even with a PhD, I will probably have to work my ass off everyday, hide my personality, and actually excel at what I do. I know I’m not in the right position to say and humbly suggest to you to keep going but as I mentioned I realized about my siblings and my second parents about all their sacrifices just to provide my studies just for the sake of my future even though until now I don’t know what I really want in life. Well, my question is about finances. Big change. Structural changes to existing structure: Let’s say a homeowner is looking to add-on to their home or hope to remove a load bearing wall to make a kitchen / great rooms. Let me know how it turns out in a few years. Health insurance costs quickly rule me out of being close to retirement. The workload was pretty crazy and young engineers routinely worked 50-60 hours per week.
I have worked at a university lab over the last 2 years gaining some design experience. Fortunately, I have been striving for financial independence for many years now. I hope it’s not too personal, out of curiosity, what would you like your kid to study at college/university? Required fields are marked *, I accept the Privacy Policy if( get_option( 'gdpr_consent_until_display' ) === '1' ){ ?>* for } ?>
Waiting until a recession is a bad move. If you did complete those 19 credits, it sounds like you are very close. Best of luck with your next chapter. If you can’t get a C, then might as well take the time off to figure out what to do next. Here I am reading this years later, but your words are SO on target and experiences so relate-able, having been forced out from the electronics industry myself awhile ago. I am a big part of trying to do that with some projects we are working on now. But as the years flew by, things changed when there were dept reorgs and many managerial changes. Save and invest as much as you can in the meanwhile. This is truly income for dummies. You can try it for a couple of years and see how it works out. I’ll tell my brother to look into it. Elon Musk smokes weed. A guy I worked with at Lockheed (around 60 now, and laid off) was from DEC in the Boston area. I will be finishing my third year on May but I just quitted last Tuesday. What’s ironic about that is without engineering, there would be minimal need for tradespersons. I believe the camaraderie and the tighter community make engineering much better in a small company. Working for the government might be the ticket for senior engineers. Thinking of becoming a Structural Engineer? Save and invest as much as you could. You can travel, have fun with friends, and do things to lessen the stress. Later I found out they wanted to make me work for it. Let me tell you my story. While I expect that phone interview, which I had to reschedule, to go nowhere, I am nonetheless preparing for it. I can see similar trend in my engineering career. Absolute mess engineering is in the USA today. My advice is to save as much as you can. It gets hard to plan the future – your head is down, working, and you go home to relax. And provide more rewarding work. During my final year, the University arranged some guest speakers from the industry to come and talk to our cohort about working as Engineers in the field . I know this has been a really long rant and cry for help, but please any suggestions or comments to help guide me are much appreciated. Working in central engineering you get 50-80% travel as normal, and I don’t mean on a 5 day week basis but 7 days. You are way too young to worry about your age and layoffs. But he didn’t allowed me. I also failed first-year university English. I suppose some engineers with a PE license might be able to hang out a shingle and go on their own, but for those of us with only corporate background, it seems one must go all out (if still having a job), ignoring family, or nothing. I think getting an advanced diploma could be a good way to “fill up” my near empty resume from the undergrad, but at the same time I am not sure if I want to do this. And to answer your question, YES. I was also thinking about getting an MBA a little down the road, but I’ve heard the value of those is decreasing. However, after doing two embedded software internships I’ve found that even though I loved learning engineering and computer science theory, I really don’t think I can sit at a computer 8+ hours a day. They do exist but are in the vast minority. Joe, sorry to hear about the outsourcing at your job. So even though I was able to get the technical stuff done, I was penalized because I wasn’t the most extroverted or well connected person during focal. I would rather figure out a problem than pay attention to the finances. Don’t forget to check out the comments to see more diverse views. Your annual review process is almost exactly the same as what they had at Intel. I like helping people and I think that i might be in a better position to do it as a FA but not sure if it is a right move. And like RetireBy40 is saying, I probably would’ve spent all my money trying to make myself happier. That clarion call ended circa 2012. End of the story. The pay increase took 6 months because I had to prove to them I was worthy. I’ve been working 3 years as an engineer in computer hardware (servers) and see the writing on the wall. I will always prioritize my personal life and that means I have sometimes had to work jobs that I did not enjoy for 40 hours each week. I reached a point where I just became so apathetic it started to scare me. I would encourage you to seek out internships or research opportunities that can demonstrate the real-world applications of your engineering curriculum. I’m sure it’s the standard operating procedure to squeeze as much as they can out of engineers. Lysaght Purlins and Girts Manual . Unfortunately, this has not been the case and thus, the pharmacist will going the way of the engineer, a powerless tool in the world of corporate America. It was good when I was young, but it’s not a good fit when I got older. 95% of the people who went into the traditional workforce lifestyle, couldn’t get out of it. So, its a matter of having to live with the stress. Maybe move to the Bay Area? Engineering was fun in the beginning, but I got burned out. After graduation I was employed as a Mechanical Engineer in the Oil and Gas industry but got thrown straight into project management. Do you have an update? I’m at that point in my engineering career (I just hit 13 years) in aerospace where I need to be a lead or manager, and I have the skills and have led some small projects. Frankly, now that I have to get back into the workforce, I have no idea what I’m going to do. Remember my big brother always telling me about this major. Also, I loved debugging and working with logic analyzers. I hope you made the right decision. It is sad when companies lose valuable people because they don’t recognize what makes that person so special at their jobs to begin with. I found this article through a google of “good paying jobs for former engineers.”, I studied EE. I never got to enjoy any of the engineering classes, and my GPA once dropped near the drop-out level. He asked me to write a detailed post on why I gave up my engineering career. I left the job too, and be exactly great-full to be with my kids. It’d be tough to make supplemental income as a new mom. If he continues to excel at math, he’ll probably be steered into STEM at some point. I can’t remember how many different managers I’ve had due just to reorgs alone. I hate (sorry about using a harsh word) people who create these myths. . I had one engineering job and got sacked in 2001 due to the downturn, and as the Chinese products drove our company from existence. I discovered that I was developing a health issue. He has taken a pretty substantial pay cut and the new job is extremely stressful as they took him out of the position he was hired for and made him responsible for many, many tasks (including failure analysis for the whole fab on all shifts) . I have strong speaking skills and would be more than happy if my whole day were to be filled with meetings, presentations, etc. . Now that my son is 2, I have noticed I don’t know the latest and greatest applications that are being used in production, learning about security vulnerabilities days after they come out rather than being a first adopter, etc. That job sounds like a nightmare. I’m thinking about returning to an engineering career but I didn’t really gain much in the way of transferable skills at Intel and I’m usually getting screened out by HR for entry level engineering jobs because they say I graduated too long ago. Good luck! I was ready to move on from engineering so I didn’t put a lot of effort into making it work. Tyhe depend on me, cant let them down for just my fun of it. If you were an engineer, chances are, outside of a handful of contracting positions, most jobs (including 1099 ones), are on a full time basis. The budget can’t keep up with the complexity so the senior people had to contribute more. However, this seems to be the only thing in my job that allows me to create on my own. That’s right. Now, Iam 5th yr student. Have you considered going into programming? I finally have my own blog but it’s about the environment! The first 7-8 years at Intel was great for me. I would just add that I totally agree with you here. ), so hardly did they need to force anyone out via other methods. I’m an engineer by education and my 2 degrees, but never more than that. Here is the problem Two years ago I suffered a heart attack after leaving a gym and doing some swimming. Kids just have to be prepared to transition to something else. If you don’t like design & debug, you probably won’t like architecture either. I’m stuck in upstate NY however… plenty of SW jobs and some manufacturing related jobs, but nobody around here (except other dwindling defense companies) designs huge complex (mostly SW based) safety critical systems like I did at Lockheed. I owe a lot of what I have to them. I hope others have had more positive experiences, because I’d hate to think all of their customers’ homes have been treated as poo... - Missy Maidens. If I had gone for it, I could’ve seen a career ending up much like yours, Joe. They do help with tuition reimbursement, too. Here’s the thing though, I don’t want to waste my time and money doing these classes this semester that I don’t enjoy. So just keep fighting! What a load of crap! I thought the school was okay and at times interesting and challenging working is just pure hell. Hey there, I am Smith, I have points and question to ask, There are many Structural Engineering Software Programs available, which can easily be found by performing a google search. However, I don’t know what to do after that. The following two tabs change content below. With my background I have a few questions I want to ask. Were all those careers successful? I was pretty sure we’d be fine financially because I did the calculation. I can actually say that my sole efforts generated 20+ million in sales for my last company. Unfortunately, I couldn’t do it. Fate made me a structural engineer. I think the pressure is high for engineers. However, an engineering career might not be a good fit for everyone. Seems like companies prefer to hire young people with a few years of experience. Engineering, Services, How a Structural Engineer Should use Structural Codes. It’s as if corporate & academic America control the press/media and the ppl actually working in the field have no say on what gets reported to the general public. I’ve been at megacorp for 18 years and am now a manager. The more you progress, the less actual engineering you do; ironically, it’s the natural evolution process for an engineer that the reward for becoming good at your job is to steer you away from doing the things that you do better than the others. I’ll always be grateful for that. I am an embedded engineer of 10+ years. This time, the counsellor said if it will make me happy then I should chase what my heart wants and that’s studying Biology. You don’t have to be an engineer for 40 years. Just save a lot and have an exit strategy in case it doesn’t work out. Are you creative at home? Thanks for sharing. One of them bounced between 4-5 companies in 4-5 years and was never happy till she finally landed at a company she settled with. At the same time, I feel like I’ve become that person that they always wanted me to be because that’s what I had been doing for my entire life. However, I didn’t really get along with my last manager and it made leaving a pretty easy decision. Even with that too I also got the impression that I had the lowest grade in the class for that exam too. Instead, why not give them 2% raises…that’s only 10% x 2% = 0.2% of the total payroll! Often a stuctural consult will require inspection of fire damage. Anyone there more than 10 years has survived at least 2-3 layoffs, so you look around and (almost) everyone else has been through the same “layoff filters” as I call them. I think it was me that changed a lot over the years. Now, I’m already a registered chemical engineer, not that I hate it but I sometimes wish that I could turn back time and be brave enough to tell my parents what I really wanted, because right now I regretted I didn’t pursue culinary. I’m a civil engineer, master’s degree in structures. That might be a way to get back into engineering. Both careers go hand in hand and while someone may be better suited for one, but not the other, the baby can’t be thrown out with the bath water. Is it some MBA consulting ideology? It will give you some cushion when you need to change. I already want out before I could no longer reverse the damage, even when I thought it’s already too late. It’s more manageable. 10 years after i am pursuing fat fire…, “The guys in my level who landed the jobs weren’t necessarily the cream the crop academically but tended to be more outgoing socially and thrived in team projects. Similarly, not all engineering employers are located in Silicon Valley or along the West Coast where the average cost of living pushes even a modest salary to near the poverty line. Despite the misconceptions, contractors often make LESS than a regular employee unless the contractor is an independent contractor. Then while Im studying Engineering, something’s came up. I thought the product was cool, and as an engineer back then with a decade of experience, I was excited at the start to be part of the company. "Analysis output typically takes a lot of pages and I hate having too many with info most will never use." My company does have the technical track, where you’re expected to continue your education (PhD), publish papers, and research, which is not a bad thing. Most young engineers should learn about this option. If you can get a comprehensive background, that can be golden. In your opinion, are the issues you mention specific to Intel, or are they likely to be present with any company over a certain size? I was getting tired of the corporate scene where your contributions are looked over and politics win over. Hey man I feel you the same way, I also experiencing what you’re going through although I’m not the smart guy back in high school until now , I just want also share my story, back then when I I was a first year high school my big brother always telling me go study hard so that you can take Engineering when you go to college. The only folks that make it out of IT with something to show for it are the Jobs, Gates, and Zuckerburgs of the world, as you will work your fingers to the bone to make the shareholders rich, and at the end of the day, be tossed to the side as a non-producer(remember all those reports and budgets they want you to do). The problem is that one’s higher ups, the so-called MBA-types, have no clue and force arbitrary deadlines and do everything in their power to sideline senior engineering tech leads. You get to spend a lot of time in the ocean and that sounds like fun. Thanks for your input. Good luck! The answers for Joe I believe is yes. Engineers are the ants, always working and doing the stuff, at least 10 hours daily. Anyways I just scrolled past the comments so sorry if I re-ask a question but I was wondering if your could’ve redone your education and major in something different what would it be. I am still in my late 20’s and financially we are in much better shape. We also are expecting our first baby in Jan so we cannot quit our jobs. A few jobs later I’m running projects that take 3-4 years to totally complete, my team is all over the world so all the interactions are over the phone and the responsibilities and expectations are increased. Was a 3.8 Civil (Structural) Engineering Major, got a summer job as an associate engineer between BS and grad school and hated it (50+ hr weeks, high stress, etc). Even so-called ‘sales’ requires a pre-existing CO-OP nowadays. The increase in difficulty between high school and the university was too much for lots of people. That was the last straw so I decided to leave the job and become a full-time mom. I have the freedom to make choices for my life without being worried about pleasing my boss, or working under stress or duress, or doing a lifestyle no longer fitting for me and my wife. If you get a chance, I want to hear more about your thoughts on this because I think about this scenario so often and am always wondering “What if I became an engineer?” –> Ray (at) howtoclearyouracne (dot) com. Wow, SpaceX sounds like a great place to work. My parents now tell me to decide my own future, but they had been telling me what to do with my career path until like 3 months ago when I raged at them for manipulating my life. The only difference was the sign on the front door! It does not surprise me there are “shortages” and fewer students studying it…I did Mechanical Engineering in University and went on to work on automotive engines. Go figure! I decided to invest in the stock market cause I see that for all companies I worked you are just a number and the only thing that matter is the money… that thing that happen to your boss is shit, but its how companies work… money money money. But knowing your trade is not everything - here are six things needed for designing a successful engineering career. My reasons were similar to those I’ve read here – it’s hard to stay on the technical side and advance your salary so you have to eventually move into management as they hire fresh graduates to take your place. I am 43. I would think the business would initially ask your husband if he’d be interested in the managerial role. Even a 20 year person would be overwhelmed working there. Can you please give me some advice on possible options I can consider? We designed very complex systems. I’m really confused. Technical only carries you so far. If they were given ‘provider’ status, they could consult with patients and earn compensation for it, letting the future machines do the drudgery work of dispensing pills. I don’t know what I’ll be doing in my 40s and 50s but I may well find myself feeling the same way you did! You have given me the courage to quit my job. I would love to just quit right now and not look back but I am not financially independent at age 37. It only took one additional year and I stood out from all the other new grads with just a BS degree. Hi, just discover your blog. They somehow know what you truly want to become” Hey man I know you’re just waiting to answer simple if it is YES or NO and not reading about some drama but I just want you to share my story and experience in life. I was a bit burned out when I was a student too. 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